I believe ramsayreek2 was the one who told him to kill the two farm boys but i could be mistaken. All the ways game of thrones ramsay bolton is way worse. In order to get the ironborn out of the north, ramsay sent balon patrick malahide a box containing theon s penis and threats to send more body parts if he. The treatment in the show was mild and gentle compared to the levels of psychological and physical torture theon is subjected to in the books. Millions of viewers have been captivated by the fictional kingdoms depicted in hbos fantasy series game of thrones, which translates the novels by george r. Theon s torture by ramsay is only revealed in flashbacks throughout the fifth novel, but the tv series chose to present these events in the chronological order that they happened. Theon greyjoy has gone through quite a transformation in game of thrones. A wild, reckless, and unpredictable pirate, during the kingsmoot euron acts like he loves. Game of thrones 3x10 ramsay snow bolton what realy happened. During the imprisonment, ramsay severely tortured theon physically and psychologically before emasculating him and mockingly. It could be the case, however, that martin has decided that the needs of his story in book form are different than what the show needs. As bookreaders know, we didnt actually see a lot of the theonramsay torture stuff on the page.
For those who dont know what happens in the future for theon, is there anything that could happen that would justify the torture. Ramsays torture leaves theon with many of his toes, fingers and teeth missing. His eldest siblings are rodrik, maron, and asha named yara in the tv series. Show theon, once he manages to shake some of the stress, is capable of decently holding his own in a scrap. The sometimes overthetop violence, drama, and magic are often written off as the stuff of fiction, but there. Ramsays bride, the bolton bastard has already made theon a eunuch and put him through unthinkable mental and physical torture. Hitfixs alan sepinwall interviews game of thrones star alfie allen, who plays theon greyjoy, about the recent torture that theon endured and. Game of thrones ramsay snow torturing theon greyjoy. Theon greyjoy has had quite the eventful arc over the course of seven seasons of game of thrones, with perhaps his biggest moments still to come. The way it was written in the books was kind of horrible because it just slowly reveals one horrible thing after another.
Theon s torture in the books didnt just destroy him mentally, but physically as well. Apr 01, 2014 hitfixs alan sepinwall interviews game of thrones star alfie allen, who plays theon greyjoy, about the recent torture that theon endured and what that means for the character going forward. In my opinion, he redeemed himself the moment he truly regretted his crimes and that was 45 seasons ago. All spoilers theon greyjoy and reek, book question. Its implied fairly strongly in the books that ramsay has cut off theons, uh, little ironborn. In fact, the nudity in game of thrones often gets some unfair treatment and is sometimes thoughtlessly considered gratuitous. How bad was theon tortured in the books as compared to the. Although the detention and torture starts in the previous books, it is in a dance with dragons that it takes on a completely new meaning and effect. Apr 12, 2019 as theon got older, and the game of thrones became more complicated, theon struggled with his identity and with where his loyalties lay. He is shown in adwd catching and promptly devouring a live rat when the jailer suddenly comes in and his first and only thought is he must hide the rat, or else he will be punished for eating a rat that didnt belong to him. At the end of greyjoy s rebellion, theon was taken to winterfell as a hostage and ward to lord eddard stark. Theon greyjoy is a member of house greyjoy and is the sole surviving son and heir apparent of balon greyjoy, lord of the iron islands. Reek2ramsay s armies attack the army outside winterfell and sack winterfell and reek2ramsay then comes back out as ramsay. An archive of our own, a project of the organization for transformative works.
Martin, and its tv series adaptation game of thrones. The master torturer was the apparent leader of the men holding theon greyjoy prisoner. Game of thrones theon greyjoy characters tv tropes. In the show, theon beheads ser rodrik cassel because hes bullied into it, and makes a mess of it. Theon greyjoy is played by alfie allen in the television adaptation of the series of books. The evil deity in the dothraki religion, who is the enemy of the stallion that rides. To me, theons arc is all about his personal journey. Being theon greyjoy, or why this dick in a box matters. He is the younger brother of rodrik, maron, and asha greyjoy. Book spoilers about the depiction of theons torture on the. On game of thrones, two savage, spectacular game changers. And it s revealed so subtly and theon is just such a patheticsympathetic character that i think the book had a lot more impact, whereas the show was more quick shock cringe factor which wasnt necessarily bad. Following his fathers failed rebellion against the iron throne, theon is taken as a ward initially hostage to lord eddard stark of winterfell.
In season two of the series, ramsay is at the head of the army attacking theons siege, and his torture of greyjoy which is largely kept offpage in the series until later books takes up an entire arc in season three. How bad was theon tortured in the books as compared to the show. Weve known him to flay men who surrendered to him, hunt down women with his dogs, torture and castrate theon, and rape sansa. As written in a song of ice and fire, theon grejoy is one of the most. For me, and i believe for a considerable amount of people, one of the most disturbing aspects when reading about the torture of theon greyjoy. This scene is from season 2 episode 10, valar morghulisfinale of game of thrones. Greyjoy blood runs through his veins, but he was raised on. Politics of the penis in government and game of thrones continue to billingpayment. Euron greyjoy is one of the main antagonists from the a song of ice and fire novel series by george r. Alfie allen looks back on theons journey, gets hyped for.
Theon didnt commit this particular crime in the books either, as he did. His torture was the characters entire arc in season 3, punctuated by the loss of theons favorite toy. For those not familiar with the books, the character of theon greyjoy is captured and tortured, badly, by ramsay snow later ramsay bolton. Mar 18, 2020 for theons antislavery work and magna carta where instrumental in the downfall of the dothraki and the slaver bay cities. Had they done it in the order that the books did, theon would have disappeared after the season 2 finale, and only reappeared again in the season 5 premiere. Game of thrones s03e06 theon back in the torture chamber. Sep 17, 20 game of thrones 3x10 ramsay snow bolton what realy happened at winterfell. In the books, theons torture happens off the page, which likely. Theon greyjoy alfie allen begins game of thrones as the cocky ward to ned stark. I have not seen the tv series explicitly state he was ignorant.
Since they cannot possibly show a character just being tortured physically and emotionally for seasons on end, theyre going to have to start limiting what we see of theon and ramsay going. Those extended torture scenes were hard to watch, and i cant imagine what they were like to film. By the end, he makes theon forget his own name, crafts an entirely new identity, and breaks the smiling prince into a writhing creature terrified of ramsay. What on earth is game of thrones doing to theon greyjoy. There are literally too many instances of this psychological torture to quote. He has lost three stone in weight, his skin has turned pasty, and his hair is white and brittle. All the ways game of thrones ramsay bolton is way worse in. Theon is the youngest son and presumptive heir of balon greyjoy, taken as a ward by lord eddard stark following balons failed rebellion. Prince theon greyjoy is the fourth and youngest child of lord balon greyjoy, ruler of the iron islands, and his wife lady alannys. May 02, 20 the main issue with theon s storyline from here till adwd is that im imagining it just being a straight up torture fest in the dungeons of the dreadfort. Theons torture and mutilation at the hands of ramsay snow happens almost entirely offstage and is only suggested until he reappears in book five, at that point so beaten down and disfigured.
Theons captors pin him to the ground, and pull down his pants as the master torturer declares that he intends to rape theon as punishment for trying to run away. Apr 24, 2019 sansa and theon s history on game of thrones. Sansa and theons history on game of thrones popsugar. In the books, the torture happens, but mostly takes place offscreen or is mentioned in flashback. Jan 06, 2014 there are people who view theons torture as consensual bdsm, and his relationship with ramsay as one of mutual attraction. Prince theon greyjoy was the youngest son of king balon greyjoy of the iron islands and the younger brother of rodrik, maron, and yara greyjoy. From the perspective of what happened to the character is was much worse in the book, however from the perspective of the reader, unlike in the show, all of it.
Sep 06, 20 theon s torturing scene from game of thrones. Due to the torture endured at ramsays hands, theon looks like he has aged forty years. Theon s reintroduction to his torture chamber, courtesy of. Everything with theon s torture happens off camera in the books and you get bits and pieces ha ha of it in theon s point of view chapters, as theon s introspections and memories. He was a torturer serving house bolton under the command of ramsay snow, the bastard son of roose bolton, and castellan of the dreadfort. Psychological torture most notably, ramsay intentionally allowed theon and a woman named kyra to escape, only so he could hunt them down and drag them back to the castle. Theon greyjoy is a major character in the book series a song of ice and fire and its television series adaptation game of thrones. He starts to torture theon and eventually turns him into reek3.
A breakdown of the many ways hbos game of thrones strayed. Game of thrones s03e10 roose bolton and walder frey talks, ramsay bolton officially revealed duration. Kit harington his own version of the books notorious pink letter. I dont mean justify torture, i mean could theons storyline do things that were so compelling and integral, that the extensive scenes of theons abuse be considered essential and not random tortureporn. Theon greyjoy is described as being an arrogant nineteenyearold at the start of a game of thrones, with black hair and a cocky grin. It could be that he felt theons torture needed to be more graphic on the show than its book counterpart in order for audiences to understand just how broken he became. Things you never knew about theon and reek screenrant. Theon greyjoy, on the show, is an heir to the hardscrabble, piratical, profoundly macho nobles of the iron islands. Book theon will likely never hold a bow again due to his severed fingers and toes. Weve known him to flay men who surrendered to him, hunt down women with his dogs, torture and castrate theon, and. Besides missing teeth, many more are loose so he cannot eat without suffering agony.
Theon greyjoy and the messy road to redemption watchers on. At the dreadfort, theon greyjoy has been chained up in a dungeon after being knocked out before the sack of winterfell. Mysterious northman is in the books, yesbut its all offstage, and for good reason. For the next step, youll be taken to a website to complete. He kills the two miller s boys presented as the stark boys. Game of thrones is often criticised for its use of nudity, sometimes fairly and other instances not so much. He is the younger brother of king balon greyjoy, the older brother of victarion, urrigon, and aeron, and the captain of the pirateship the silence. May 21, 20 it is hinted in the book that he got the unsullied treatment, but never outright stated. At the end of greyjoys rebellion, theon was taken to winterfell as a hostage and ward to lord eddard stark. Was robb stark aware of theon s torture, or even his capture by the boltons. He is the only surviving son of lord balon greyjoy and lady alannys harlaw. Oct 04, 2017 for me, whats left for theons arc has nothing to do with redemption. Im sorry that my first post is about such nasty aspect of the story, but theon became one of my favorite characters, and his narrative in the fifth book, the whole physical and mental torture, the obliteration of his identity until he begins to really reflect over his life and what he has done, it always intrigued and horrified me. May 22, 2019 these extended scenes, which showed theon s torture in excruciating detail as well as ramsays ensuing glee, went on way too long and likely alienated some of thrones more squeamish fans.
I finally managed to get around to reading a dance with dragons, the fifth book in the game of thrones series. Without spoilering too much, theon s capture takes place at the end of book 2 a clash of kings sort of like it did in the tv show and whe. Theons torture and mutilation at the hands of ramsay snow happens almost entirely offstage and is only suggested until he reappears in book five, at. In the books, ramsay slices off his arm when cassel offers a hand in friendship, and then later blames this murder on theon. Book spoilers about the depiction of theons torture on. Whether the show follows the book or not, i hope yara rescues theon soon because i cant stand more of that torture. Martin, and its television adaptation game of thrones. Theon greyjoy is a fictional character in the a song of ice and fire series of fantasy novels by. What the hell is game of thrones doing with theon greyjoys arc. Well actually, in the books 15 differences from text to tv. However, ramsay returns and snipes all of the captors from afar using his bow, rescuing him at the last minute. Well i definitly dont see their relationship in that way, but i dont find those fanfics so weird, because theyre clearly out of canon and i believe that the people who wrote them know it. Ramsayss sexual desire towards theon general asoiaf a.
Theons tiresome, gratuitous hostelstyle torture scenes warranted only a very peripheral mention sans gruesome details in. Theon greyjoy is a fictional character in the a song of ice and fire series of fantasy novels by american author george r. Theons torture is not like foucaults drawingandquartering in the. Jan 18, 2017 ramsay boltons torture of theon greyjoy produced the persona of reek, a character so completely destroyed by his torture, that he was not only left without any autonomy, but would actively put himself at risk in the hope that he would be able to avoid further harm.
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